the moderators cannot do anything with the stupid bug in the forum. moderators dont have that kind of authority anyway.

even admins cannot do anything if it's the nature of the forum engine... no need to blame anyone for that... duh

By quoting whatever the previous poster said in other words actually starts the flame..I agree with Hans.L that previous year SSSC handle criticism and other complaints better in a more professional way..
Plus a lot of SSSC member that replied by quoting my post makes their on conclusion on what i meant...please ask for clarification before shooting me down...

Some of the comments like SSSC members can actually wear mask for the event CAN be done...there are many ways for it to be done actually...my frens and I even think of how it can be done...All the basis of argument u gave is not even close to strong...merely excuses...so sorry to say that too..

In the Prom **** topic, all the SSSC members are shooting my post...ignored other people's post and continuing to quote here and there...

p/s: I want to ask this: do you want us forumers to have honest **** or not? If not, we can pretend everything is good and give false **** to make u feel better...

the F-ee-d-back word is censored!!!!!all the stars are that word

Just put a space in between like this "Feed back"

From the **** for prom night 2009 thread, page one to page 4, I didn't see that council members didn't accept the complaints and **** that given by the students, and I can see that everyone was trying very hard to apologized on what we couldn't satisfied the students during the events and giving some explanation on it especially the OC, lvin and deidre who giving a long explanation on what the students not satisfied with it.

I think the problems only occurs on page 5 which some council member ask snowfish to run for the sssc presidency. We really apologized on this because we know that it;s not appropriate. But council member also got the freedom on writing what they want, if we didn't give freedom, I'm sure that that post will be deleted by me. I know that council members should be acting professional in this forum, but not every council members. For those who really good in their english background, I;m sure that they can do it just like what lvin and Deidre do. But for people like me, I'm not good in english, so the way I want to say out my things will be more directly which will lead some issues to be happen. This is also one of the reason that I'm not active in the forum, this is because anything like what happening now will be happen. For snowfish, may be u think that every council members is shooting you in the post, but they are just explain to you our difficulties in doing some of the things you expected or suggested. Like what I said, may be is the post which ask you be run for the presidency make you feel not comfortable with it. And we're sorry about that thread~

I ever face the same problem also during year 2007 when I'm also one of the SSSC member. We can't expect every council member to be professional in what they write. We can't stop them from writing in forum also if they can't act professional. And if can, please don't compare SSSC with the previous one cause everything will changed every year. We're not the same groups of person who joining the council, different people will have different ways in doing things. Just like year 2007 and this year, there are some students calling us Ah Beng and Ah Lian because of our behavior. But then, we didn't care much about it, we wouldn't change also. All of us are willing to remain the same although some people are describing us in such way. Because we are doing this voluntary, as long as we do our best for the students, we are satisfied and happy with it already. But sure, we will keep on improve the things we do to satisfied swinburne students.

Lastly, I would like to say thanks everyone who supports students council not only for my term only but also the previous sssc. And regarding the main issue of this thread,can it be solved? Hahaha, if anyone of you need any explanation on anythings, just let me know~ But hope that u guys don't mind about my english, it's really not up to standard, Sorry~

[IMHO]

council members are 'forced' to use the forum to help serve the students better because that's where they can all come together to discuss topics... even if they are not willing to use it, they still have to answer students' questions, and i suppose that is one of the reasons of lack of motivation to do high standard postings, mainly because they may not be english professionals to begin with, or not able to communicate with the public effectively (not everyone can speak influentially ok?). i dont think it was ever a requirement for a council member to 'be professional' in the forum (but at least know ur netiquette)

[/IMHO]

No nd gud english de la.. See mine? lol.. Not active is oso ok de, but still need to come read the forum for any student's inquiries or stuff lo.. and just extra advise? sometimes a leader need to control its member's actions to prevent/avoid problems.. Coz the member's actions means the whole team/club's actions.. ppl will say the club name, not tat person's name. and yea, think mainly this problem is caused by the "presidency" thingy.. >.<

And tru oso, no nd to be pro in the forum, jz need to be pro in handling problems @.@ I think highfantasy's post above is pro enuf.. mainly about moral attitude in the forum la.. haha.. and what I always like, add in more smileys to show friendliness and politeness XD

in the forum it is hard to control members as a group... council president cannot control what the other council members want to post, since each member is an individual in the forum, unless sssc can put together a plan to curb the handling of the forum... otherwise (sad to say) the whole council takes the beating in the end

Ah btw, I think the most effective way to solve this thread's problem is.. the ppl involved need to apologize.. which is the ppl who mentioned about the "presidency" thingy.. >< thats what I think la..

Forum is a place where SSSC can know what the students us in general thinks and feed back...yes?no?

SSSC can gather together and have one representative to answer all the questions and solve problems..because 3-4 SSSC members all saying contradictory facts..which in turn make us confuse...

I'm sorry to say that with the number of SSSC members posting not consistently shows unity in the council is not strong enough..

Whatever I write in forum is based on my opinion and sometimes I'm talking about the facts and truth not make-up stories to say...

I do complain and give negative feed back but this is for the council in following year to refer and do better..

Forum is open for us students to voice out...SSSC members can actually refrain themselves from getting emotional and did not read between the lines of any post and then make their own conclusion..

I'm not shooting the SSSC but as you can see here..the person involve in flaming has not apologize in anyway...I dislike the fact that other people need to cover up or apologize for his/her sake...

Why do I need to waste my time to write these posts? I'm voicing out...if you don't like it then it's your problem..no point trying to argue nor defend anything...

forgive and forget. in the end, no one will lose, no one will win

Guess its about time for me to post now. I did not want to join in the conversation earlier on as I want to see how the thread goes first. Before I start, I would like to clarify on the forum technicalities.

The censorship on some certain words occurred right from the beginning of the forum since last year. Unfortunately, both of the admins, Ch1n^anN and I were unable to solve it. We attempted to contact the forum host and there were no helpful responds. We did try to look for alternatives solutions like:

(Link, sorry for small image size, I cropped too much >_>)
We forced the system to censor the word "feed.back" and replace with "feed-back" but obviously, it doesn't work.

This word censorship bug issue doesn't affect the forum's "well-being" hence, we decided to treat it as a very minor issue. Although we are still trying to figure out the problem behind, the forum is still functioning smoothly right? So lets not make a big fuss over it shall we?



Now about the topic. I didn't want to reply is because the whole thread is between some forum members expressing dissatisfaction towards the some of the SSSC members' replies in the other mentioned thread. In fact I almost misunderstood a little at first by looking at the thread title. Although I have the obligation to keep things chill but I would prefer the SSSC to settle with the forum members properly before I step in.

Talk about freedom of speech? Well, its been practice in the forum for a long time ever since the birth of ssscforum.com Ofcourse there are exceptions like piracy talks and usage of foul language. We even specially categorize a spam area in the forum for everyone to say anything. What I would like to say is that when a person say something, there will be replies from others. Agreements and disagreements are bound to happen. Unfortunately, what I can see that there are some people take replies personally and emotionally and caused dissatisfactions among all parties.

I have to agree that some of the replies given by some SSSC members are a bit rather hard to digest. Being a former council member myself, I do understand why such words came out in their postings. To plan, organize and implement such a big event with VERY VERY VERY limited funds is very tiring, hard, stressful, frustrating, going around places back and forth, ringing people up all the time, dealing with lots of external organizations, etc etc, I can't find the correct words to describe it. Most important of all, every single member is putting in effort voluntary. You'll have to be a member of SSSC to experience and fully understand it. I also agree that some of the SSSC member's postings don't exhibit professionalism which they are expected to but looking at what they have done for the students and clubs the whole year so far, I think they are considered quite a good team which is comparable to previous SSSCs just that the way they communicate is not as good as the previous terms. No offence there, hehe =P


But all in all, seems like things are getting fine now so I'll stop here. As Satriakid said, let us all get back to happy postings and continue spam in the spam threads =3

Cheers~

Hello!!! Back to my topic and reason why forum is open?? Censorship is not the main issues here