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PostSubject: Potraying sexuality, mentioning swinburne too?   Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:34 am

I bumped into this website where 2 swinburne students are taking pictures for photography or something. I dont get it, the girl is wearing a sports bra or whatever u call it and taking intimate pictures with each other. Also the guy is touching the girl's back part.

I didnt know walking around wearing a bra is considered 'proper' here in malaysia (unless in clubs/pubs i think) Also, holding each other in that manner. If it is, i'm pretty sure there would be a lot of girls wearing bras to uni and also couple sticking to each other doing such things.

IF IT'S NOT, shouldnt this guy be sued by swinburne for mentioning SWINBURNE STUDENTS? Is that how we want people to think about us swinburne students? That swinburne is full of people living like animals. What a bad reputation. It's very sad.

hey, do whatever you wanna do, if it's about modelling, i understand. just dont mention swinburne. Not all swinburne girls are like that nor we want that kind of reputation.

http://www.alvinleong.com/blog/?author=3
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PostSubject: Re: Potraying sexuality, mentioning swinburne too?   Sun Oct 26, 2008 1:10 pm

The photographs were shot during an event organised by a club in Swinburne some time ago.

The models did not 'walk around' in that as you speculated. They arrived there and for the first half of the day, participated in the photography lecture organised by Alvin Leong. Only on the second part did they change into the clothing you saw, and even then they changed it back when the modelling session is over.

I won't blame you for not knowing that it is an official club activity since you were not around when it happened. You suggested that Alvin Leong get sued for mentioning a fact - that these are Swinburne students. This won't help at all the long-standing relationship between Alvin Leong and Swinburne University. If you don't know, the photos that you see in the websites and promotional materials are done by him.

Different people have different views on what they consider morality or moral behaviour. Expecting other people to follow your view of morality and condemn them if they don't is just plain arrogance, especially when you do not know the facts involved.
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PostSubject: Re: Potraying sexuality, mentioning swinburne too?   Sun Oct 26, 2008 3:33 pm

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"I bumped into this website where 2 swinburne students are taking pictures for photography or something."


which 2 swinburne students? A lot of participants from swinburne were taking pictures for photography that day.

It's a photoshoot held off campus in a national park. There was hardly anyone to offend other than participants. These students were not walking around on Swinburne campus. They were modeling. And what they were wearing was not the focus of the whole shoot, but how to take images well and from what angle is good.

I don't know about you, but I would be focusing on the picture quality and how well the shot was taken and the lighting that was available and what kind of adjustments for your camera you should do to take a nice picture.

Are you some moral police for Swinburne now? please, the whole point of them modeling was for photography.

I don't think the participants particularly cared what they were wearing and neither do I. I'm hardly offended. I'm glad that the model is actual good-looking and has the body to go with too.

And taking this from a blog.....uhm....
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PostSubject: Re: Potraying sexuality, mentioning swinburne too?   Sun Oct 26, 2008 6:06 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Potraying sexuality, mentioning swinburne too?   Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:54 pm

to each its own. i think we should not condemn people without prior knowledge.
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PostSubject: Re: Potraying sexuality, mentioning swinburne too?   Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:17 am

Several posts has been removed due to indecent content and any other posts relate to them are removed as well. Now I'm gonna make things clear here.

I do not see anything wrong with the photograph mentioned. I was one of the participants in the photography tutorial and there were no objections going on that time. There were quite a number of muslim participants and none of them were offended of the scene. However, the main point is that the model herself volunteered to show her skin in the first place and was not told to do so or forced to do so. Semi-nude modeling photography is being practiced all over the world and it is recognized as art. Most importantly, it is the person's choice to choose whether to show their skin or not, not the society. Other universities like Lim Kok Wing and The One Academy in Malaysia are also practicing these kind of activity until now and I do not see any negative feedback from the society but more on positive. Regarding Swinburne's reputation, like what swing mentioned, the information that you are getting from is from a blog, not from an official Swinburne publication. Hence no harm done on reputation. What more to say on suing.

The event was held few months back and up until now nobody commented or complained anything on this issue. I do not see any problem here as well so why even bother? If the thread starter wish to further discuss more on this, please do so and we discuss politely. There is no need to get sensitive and start going offensive. If no then this thread shall be closed in the next three days as it doesn't serve any value for any future discussions.
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PostSubject: Re: Potraying sexuality, mentioning swinburne too?   Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:42 am

Hmm... Some value could come out this. Perhaps an introduction should be made properly in this thread. I should think that xdeadromeox has a point. Moral discussions should be valid arguements in this forum. But as Hans. L has mentioned, whatever that is done should with the intention of respect for others first.

Maybe the thread could be an arguement whether Swinburners should be allowed to show sexuality in general in terms of clothing and interaction with peers, associates and lovers.
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PostSubject: Re: Potraying sexuality, mentioning swinburne too?   Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:34 pm

Gosh, wat the heck?!

They are not in swinburne campus at all, plus the author(Alvin Leong, if you kch ppl, u should know who that guy is) got mention that they are both volunteered and this was a workshop session. I seriously don't see any wrong here, huh. His post was 'clean' as well, from the way i read it.
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